Key findings:
* On issues, voters are most concerned about energy and the economy, and they prefer Obama by a double-digit margin on each. He’s favored on taxes, traditionally a Republican strength, and essentially tied with McCain on handling illegal immigration.
* On personal characteristics, McCain is rated more highly than Obama in just one of 10 categories — as a “strong and decisive leader.”
the best contribution to debate here has been the replacement of punctuation with the new grammatical concept, the “chirp”. You can use chirps in place of commas and full stops, not to mention other obsolete devices like the long lost semi-colon.
I’ll let Chris answer for himself but my two cents worth are:
The generally conservative nature of the US is Obama’s biggest threat. For example, the US has a majority (or near to it) that believe in creation over evolution.
The naivity and parochialism of the US is furtile ground for a negative campain. It has won GWB the last two elections - and look what damage that has wrought upon the world. I worry that the same narrow minded fears can elect the republicans again.
But, I think this turn is different, the abject failure of the Bush adminstration has broken the mould. The same fear campaign cannot be cast again.
“Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”
Sun, June 22: http://news.yahoo.com/edcartoons/tomtoles;_ylt=Aof4JcRiJ3lD4_my4NKjMSfX.sgF
—————
Dio, the first couple of minutes of your first linked clip at 1577 (up till his speard arm bow) are the most wonderful anti-bullshit comedy I’ve ever witnessed. George Carlin was a courageous comedian who never tugged a forelock, doffed his cap or spoke anything but truth to power.
Posted this farewell at C&L:
“Great to note a couple of commenters mentioning Richard Pryor and Lenny Bruce on this vale thread because George Carlin was right up there with them.
Mr.Carlin was brilliantly creative and outrageously funny like Lenny, and he projected the physical comedy of Pryor. The smarts, the moves and the chops; George had it all.
Condolences to his immediate friends and family. Mr. Carlin has left us much of his legacy in cyberspace…… Love ya, George.”
been out for a few hours , thought drop by and then off
FINNS “Amigo Ron, Swanees gave heart attack on Saturday sometime in Canberra’s chill”.
3rd quarter yep , but came home with a swanee wind there My team had another win as well so the tape has been used a few times since , although Diogenes was abit cheeky early in day seeing both of his sides lost so thoght I’d mention that
And for the rest of the day , hell , the cut & thrust of PB and Andrew has taken his bat with a tantrem he made himself an twice during the nite tried to burn anither on the way , no feel for others there The Panch got bowled middle stump by a late inswinger , but has apealed to Bucknor against the light And Catrina is considering EC’s request Also intersting about poor Andrew , the moderator gives him a little slap and he acted alittle too hasty and now forever he’s lost all the benefits of PB of our friendly company , and GG’s of course
and CodgY , nah , he wanted to watch NZ in a rugga game one nity, and yu codgY are a believer in the GroupThink i ee
William,
As a dedicated lurker, currently in the UK, I ask you humbly to forgive and forget. During the most exciting stages of selecting a candidate, Catrina provided regular updates on the contest throughout the night, invaluable for those of us om the northern hemisphere. It was greatly appreciated by many of us.
June 23rd, 2008 at 10:56 pm
caw
June 23rd, 2008 at 10:59 pm
Hey Catrina - there is still over four months to go - ya can’t throw the towel in now - the team needs ya!
Just play the ball - not the man and Mr Bowe will be sweet.
June 23rd, 2008 at 10:59 pm
Gallup Poll: Obama Holds Lead Over McCain
Key findings:
* On issues, voters are most concerned about energy and the economy, and they prefer Obama by a double-digit margin on each. He’s favored on taxes, traditionally a Republican strength, and essentially tied with McCain on handling illegal immigration.
* On personal characteristics, McCain is rated more highly than Obama in just one of 10 categories — as a “strong and decisive leader.”
Wow! That was close. He nearly got ten out of ten
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-06-22-poll-edge_N.htm?loc=interstitialskip
June 23rd, 2008 at 11:00 pm
the best contribution to debate here has been the replacement of punctuation with the new grammatical concept, the “chirp”. You can use chirps in place of commas and full stops, not to mention other obsolete devices like the long lost semi-colon.
June 23rd, 2008 at 11:05 pm
Chris B, Question
Do you believe if McCain wins it will be due to racism?
June 23rd, 2008 at 11:09 pm
Amigo, i know we have our disagreements but do you have to resort to this?
Editorial: Pancho and Osama
http://bangornews.com/news/t/viewpoints.aspx?articleid=166135&zoneid=34
June 23rd, 2008 at 11:10 pm
1605 ESJ
That would make Finns happy.
1600 Finns
What a pathetic post by an inflated sense of stature.
June 23rd, 2008 at 11:13 pm
HarryH, welcome to the cry babies club
June 23rd, 2008 at 11:20 pm
Finns
You’re the one doing the Harriet Christian impersonation….and doing it well.
Racism is ugly to watch. Thank heavens the youth are moving beyond it.
June 23rd, 2008 at 11:22 pm
Eddy @ 1605
I’ll let Chris answer for himself but my two cents worth are:
The generally conservative nature of the US is Obama’s biggest threat. For example, the US has a majority (or near to it) that believe in creation over evolution.
The naivity and parochialism of the US is furtile ground for a negative campain. It has won GWB the last two elections - and look what damage that has wrought upon the world. I worry that the same narrow minded fears can elect the republicans again.
But, I think this turn is different, the abject failure of the Bush adminstration has broken the mould. The same fear campaign cannot be cast again.
June 23rd, 2008 at 11:23 pm
Gee, it makes me miss the Man from the Showy River, at least he got class.
June 23rd, 2008 at 11:25 pm
1611
Catch….Here’s a mirror.
June 23rd, 2008 at 11:29 pm
“Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”
Sun, June 22:
http://news.yahoo.com/edcartoons/tomtoles;_ylt=Aof4JcRiJ3lD4_my4NKjMSfX.sgF
—————
Dio, the first couple of minutes of your first linked clip at 1577 (up till his speard arm bow) are the most wonderful anti-bullshit comedy I’ve ever witnessed. George Carlin was a courageous comedian who never tugged a forelock, doffed his cap or spoke anything but truth to power.
Posted this farewell at C&L:
“Great to note a couple of commenters mentioning Richard Pryor and Lenny Bruce on this vale thread because George Carlin was right up there with them.
Mr.Carlin was brilliantly creative and outrageously funny like Lenny, and he projected the physical comedy of Pryor. The smarts, the moves and the chops; George had it all.
Condolences to his immediate friends and family. Mr. Carlin has left us much of his legacy in cyberspace…… Love ya, George.”
June 23rd, 2008 at 11:34 pm
WTR, I’m sure you’re right: this time will be different. The republicans are going to get a whalloping.
June 23rd, 2008 at 11:45 pm
William Bowe Says:
June 23rd, 2008 at 10:45 pm
“Parrot”? “”Waste of space”? Oh, boo-hoo.
So this is the way he who runs this site responds to concern about double standards?? And he is talking about decency??
Well done William, youve lost 2 bloggers in one night. If you keep going you might just even up the numbers here for Ron and Co. Adios
June 24th, 2008 at 12:47 am
1579 Diogenes Says:
‘I find the comments about Ron’s grammar patronising to a great contributor.’
How PC Dio & more power to you but for many it’s just the door marked Enter…
& Ron, ‘agree with the gotcha stuff’; what? “Groupthink” back in vogue? Can’t be true.
Alas, poor Pancho…‘and i think a NZ er too’…that’s easy ron, just tell him to ‘go back to his crappy country’ eh?
June 24th, 2008 at 1:09 am
Democrarcy in action; ShocknAwe version or British Lion Sleeps Tonight…
http://news.theage.com.au/world/tsvangirai-takes-refuge-at-dutch-embassy-in-harare-20080624-2vo6.html
June 24th, 2008 at 1:12 am
Democracy…
June 24th, 2008 at 1:26 am
been out for a few hours , thought drop by and then off
FINNS “Amigo Ron, Swanees gave heart attack on Saturday sometime in Canberra’s chill”.
3rd quarter yep , but came home with a swanee wind there My team had another win as well so the tape has been used a few times since , although Diogenes was abit cheeky early in day seeing both of his sides lost so thoght I’d mention that
And for the rest of the day , hell , the cut & thrust of PB and Andrew has taken his bat with a tantrem he made himself an twice during the nite tried to burn anither on the way , no feel for others there The Panch got bowled middle stump by a late inswinger , but has apealed to Bucknor against the light And Catrina is considering EC’s request Also intersting about poor Andrew , the moderator gives him a little slap and he acted alittle too hasty and now forever he’s lost all the benefits of PB of our friendly company , and GG’s of course
and CodgY , nah , he wanted to watch NZ in a rugga game one nity, and yu codgY are a believer in the GroupThink i ee
June 24th, 2008 at 1:36 am
William,
As a dedicated lurker, currently in the UK, I ask you humbly to forgive and forget. During the most exciting stages of selecting a candidate, Catrina provided regular updates on the contest throughout the night, invaluable for those of us om the northern hemisphere. It was greatly appreciated by many of us.
June 24th, 2008 at 1:47 am
I haven’t banned anybody, Kerneels.
June 24th, 2008 at 1:57 am
William,
I am pleased to hear that. Maybe everyone will cool down a bit now.
June 24th, 2008 at 4:01 am
New thread.