May 08 2008
West Virginia minus one week
After yesterday’s North Carolina landslide and Indiana cliffhanger, most commentators have upgraded Barack Obama’s chances of securing the Democratic nomination from likely to (almost) certain. The next stage in the contest, assuming it gets that far, is next week’s primary for West Virginia, at which 28 delegates will be elected through a “modified” primary open to independents and registered Democrats.
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May 13th, 2008 at 12:06 am
‘I’m in the middle of the other 3 of you dreamy ‘progressive’ academia theories’
My sliderule snapped.
May 13th, 2008 at 12:11 am
ESJ
you will have noticed that as soon as I expoed the Obamabots phony dreamy “intellectual agenda’ including ‘change to’ & ‘new style politics’ etc etc for what it is (#1161) they run.
the looney academia left Obamabots cann’t defend an intellectual Agenda thats simple motherhood vision statements a engagement ‘love in’. There is NO intellectual agenda beyond this. Phony over a lattee
May 13th, 2008 at 12:12 am
1200
Robert Bollard
Holy sheet Robert, that’s a heavy list for this time of night!
You could add to that the destruction of the last of the Moguls by the Brits and it’s engendering the Deobandi school of radical Islam, the precursor to today’s Taliban.
(well, for a bit of topical colour)
May 13th, 2008 at 12:13 am
1201
Perfect!
Thanks codge, I get it…now!
May 13th, 2008 at 12:13 am
& my chair just exploded.
May 13th, 2008 at 12:16 am
Robert
#1200
the only people you made happy are the anti US Obamabots , but then they don’t realise 90% of your blog relates to events 50 to 80 years ago !!!
You do need a time capsule to go back in time. Its 2008 now
May 13th, 2008 at 12:17 am
It was just the first few examples off the top of me head KR. But when an out and out Tory like ESJ throws freakin’ Kronstadt in one’s face. Jeysus!
Besided the bludgers gone and beatified himself and included a hyphen! I have enough Irish ancestors to know that that’s doubly wrong.
May 13th, 2008 at 12:19 am
It’s called history Ron, you may have heard about it, somewhere.
May 13th, 2008 at 12:20 am
ESJ, you are mistaking a conservative political agenda for economic theory. This is just jargon and you know it. Privatisation is neither intrinsically good or bad. What is bad is deregulating privately owned monopolies that control key parts of the economy. Reagan was keen on that, at the expense of consumers, workers, taxpayers and the environment.
He attacked the notion of government as a force for good in people’s lives, but he didn’t make government more efficient or more accountable or even smaller. He just made it more corrupt, more spendthrift, more irrelevant and more disreputable. And America is still paying the price for his ideological victory. Terrible shame, but there ya go.
May 13th, 2008 at 12:20 am
#35H2:
The buttflys elite dance through the traitor NZ backer and lack of mehamatics, pronoun use and grammar as Obamabot markers, knowang truth is our woman whiskey shot drained with the 109% real workung white demographic only winnable way, yes and key to success?
#76Q9:
I bloged yr anzwer at #12B5 so you lie pink herring and puce sardine inadequacy reveal, sauté in a jus of yr own meeeeanderingqs.
#V34D:
Relying to you, 946% of the ‘black’ vote (‘you are whitefella’, they said, when asked them I and rascist event thing you no no not) is not a raisin candidate for all raisins, at best, mistorically hisguided
#HELP
The FWake: love, and yr wit degustating. And per hops, a wretcharound?
I write to Clanton’s campaing managers with suggestions helpful. Why my emails do they Agnew?
#ID:
Tank of the buttflys. Will noon thunk of the bittieflys?
May 13th, 2008 at 12:21 am
Ok Ron,
Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, possibly Iran, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq.
Contemporary enough?
(Ps. Kronstadt was also a while ago).
May 13th, 2008 at 12:22 am
1207
Robert Bollard
yeah, I know what you mean! When the tory rot is sprouted by Eddy I get that feeling too.
It’s that old line: if you don’t agree with my rightwing drivel then you’re obviously an unreconstructed Stalinist!
For gawd’s sake, who even speaks like that? Talk about history! LOL
May 13th, 2008 at 12:25 am
ESJ
This moron below (Codger) twisted my quote. Codgor lied by cuting & pasting what I said in #1192 to look like I was accussing Libs of dreamy ‘progressive’ academia theories’
1201
codger Says:
May 13th, 2008 at 12:06 am
‘I’m in the middle of the other 3 of you (dreamy ‘progressive’ academia theories’)
The bit I’ve put in brackets I said 6 lines after the non bracket words . The bracket word were directed at HIM and his Obamabot looney academia left friends here
May 13th, 2008 at 12:25 am
1210
(L) Won
L Won, can you come out of the Cubbard?
May 13th, 2008 at 12:29 am
L Won:
This is superb:
I bloged yr anzwer at #12B5 so you lie pink herring and puce sardine inadequacy reveal, sauté in a jus of yr own meeeeanderingqs.
…can I have seconds?
Please?
May 13th, 2008 at 12:33 am
I’m in the middle of a dream. I awoke to find myself in between two progressives from academia - but at least they were dreamy.
May 13th, 2008 at 12:33 am
Robert
Iraq is current , but make YOUR case that it was an invasion:
by Repug ‘right’ idelology , capitalism , Israeli false intell , money markets , oil protection for the US , geopolitical US m/e control aspirations , a commbination of poor 7 over rpolitically receptive M5/CIA intell to give pollies what they wanted to hear or did the UN inspections have any WMD concerns at all or dumb POTOS post 9/11
I’ve left out the bull….t ‘create democracy one
Don’t be trifling by saying all if you’re fair dinkum
May 13th, 2008 at 12:35 am
KR at 1193
*twinkle*
And there is a undecided super who is coming out tonight - and nobody know which way. But stay turned and I’ll post my little news bulletin and the I’ll be watching for a reaction from the three lonely hearts left defending the Evil Empire.
Rock on the Federation!
Yes we can.
May 13th, 2008 at 12:35 am
1216
Robert Bollard
We cater for all, ah, tastes here RB!
It cannot get more surreal than Eddy and Ron (and his doppleganger, L Won) doing tag team.
May 13th, 2008 at 12:35 am
#12F4:
k/r, cup boards I out from. No Muther Hubbard me, not moron below (Xenu) quoit twisting. Cludger layed by cuting & patting what I said in #11K2 to lick like I was a-cussing of dishy pregressive kackademic tizzies.
#12W1:
The bouterflays I’ve pit in buckets I seed sux lanes after the non-bucket weirds. The bucket weird were derogated at HUm and hus Ibamomot lunkies.
All clear, yes? Only bitterfluffs could miss.
May 13th, 2008 at 12:36 am
Obamabots , thats why i ignore your non intellectual pathetic one line explanations for Iraq & all world problem events
May 13th, 2008 at 12:39 am
Once was enough, (L) Won.
May 13th, 2008 at 12:40 am
Ibimi-nots, thats why ignore me yor nonpathetic intellectual multi-line inclinations for all problem event worlds (and stull, wil noon tink of the poor pulled-wings buttflays?)
May 13th, 2008 at 12:41 am
1218
Catrina
Good news Catrina, the more the merrier, but it would be a surprising time to ‘come out’ for Hillary, eh?
It’s been uproariously funny in the sandpit tonight, you really had to be here!
I think Ecky has started channeling Ron, codge has done some of his best haikus, and Eddy went all Tory with Reagan’s “neoclassical economics”!
It’s been madness, but luckily RB put a stop to Eddy’s pouting.
Ah, I’m still laughing.
May 13th, 2008 at 12:41 am
Ron, at the risk of being overly complex, I think that Iraq was invaded by the US army, with some help from the British and Australians. They invaded because they wanted them some oil. This is a commodity of some importance. Sorry for having verbs in my sentences; I’ll try harder next time. What is your point exactly? (This is a rhetorical question!)
May 13th, 2008 at 12:43 am
William @ 1222:
Absolutely. I’ve stopped now. But sometimes, ridicule is the only, albeit briefly-used, option.
May 13th, 2008 at 12:44 am
1222
William Bowe
Once a night?
May 13th, 2008 at 12:47 am
As Dudley Moore sang:
Laugh?
I nearly shat!
I have not laughed so much
since grandma caught her
left tit in a mangle!
For we are all miserable sinners…
(he does a lovely hymn like ending)
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaamen
May 13th, 2008 at 12:48 am
Ron at 1221
Oh but Ron, you have to chuckle, gosh - I’ve been chucking away for at least seven minutes. Just take a moment and go back and read (L) Won at Ma href=”http://www.pollbludger.com/?p=853&cp=13#comment-151418″>1210 ans 1220. It’s almost hard to type!
May 13th, 2008 at 12:48 am
FINNS & GG
these are the 3 groups you’ve left me with on the ‘Matinee ‘ slot:
Obamabots: Far Left anti US , dreamy , politically correct ‘progressive’ academia theories’
Socialist ROBERT:
loves the Obamabots Anti US and anti Labor practical
social & equity policys (because Labor generally does accept with qualifications a non socialist economic world) , otherwise Robert would p…on the Obamabots
ESJ: strong Liberal ‘right’ free marketfree enterprise economy
I shall battle the 3 concurrently until replaced from the interchange bench plus Barry Hall
May 13th, 2008 at 12:52 am
KR at 1224
Me too - and if only I can get my typing back under control…
May 13th, 2008 at 12:53 am
I prefer Python (the ultimate critique of the market - note ESJ!):
“Sold the widows,
Put the money into diesel powered nuns.
Clever chap!
Always knew he’d do well.
Funny chap though….
Buttocks spread the wrong way.”
May 13th, 2008 at 12:54 am
oh no, now Ron’s channeling (L) Won!
Ah, this is way, way too freaky!
May 13th, 2008 at 12:55 am
1231
Catrina
It’s ok, we knew you weren’t “chucking”! LOL
May 13th, 2008 at 12:55 am
Kirribilli Removals at 1227:
My mother once told me that once a king always a king but once a night is enough!
May 13th, 2008 at 12:56 am
Good night. What a bunch of bludgers! There hasa to eb a work for the dole scheme for youse all. And if you’re not on the dole, well that can be arranged.
May 13th, 2008 at 1:00 am
1235
Catrina
Funny, that crossed my mind too.
But it’s been one of those nights when the kiddies just have to muck up. Maybe the relief that it’s all about to end, you know, the Hillary thing.
Tensions been rising for months, and now, well, the end is within sight.
Still, there’s Supers to count, and buttflays to flay, so get on with it!
May 13th, 2008 at 1:00 am
Robert
#1225
No you’ve answered my query. I thought you were suggesting an idealogical cause of the invasion
My view varies from yours . I do think it was a combination of :
a/ 2 poor intell groups (intell flawed by politically influenced thinking M5/CIA intell giving pollies what they wanted to hear and incompetent Intell) b/ a dumb POTOS in post 9/11 invironment , c/ some genuine fears over WMD because the UN Inspectors could not get even close to a total clearance and
d/of course Iraqi oil control longterm & this was a good excuse (oil wasn’t a short term supply problem). The weighting is open to dispute
May 13th, 2008 at 1:01 am
ad missed e/ Israeli ‘influence
May 13th, 2008 at 1:02 am
KR and Catrina:
Glad you enjoyed. It’s surprisingly easy, but I won’t do it again.
The inspiration, is of course, from the famous literary Finnegans. Joyce’s title is both a compound noun (a wake for some bloke called Finnegan) and, punningly, an imperative (Finnegans Awake!).
One hopes, given the popular vote, elected delegate and super delegate numbers, that the FWakes and fellow travelers (my doppelganger and the Borough Blurter seems to be the roll call) will eventually wake up to said imperative.
BHO is the Democratic nominee. Me, every Seppo political commentator, the rest of the world and most lifeforms mono- and multi-cellular agree on that iteration of the bleeding obvious.
There will be a time (mid-November I reckon) to have a discussion about the merits of Ms Clinton’s windmill tilt. But I think that’s a conversation we won’t be having, as we’ll be looking back on the defeat of Bushism and his aged sequels, and looking forward to the inauguration of America’s first black president.
May 13th, 2008 at 1:03 am
Congressman Tom Allen endorses Obama.
http://news.mainetoday.com/updates/026894.html
I’m sorry, I still laughing at this evenings interchange - but for a moment of factual content - we have another Obama endorser bring the raw Obama lead to 5.5 or 13.5 after applying the Pelosi factor).
Obama: 283 (276+7)
Clinton: 269.5 (270.5-1)
May 13th, 2008 at 1:07 am
1240
(L) Won
Anytime you can sneak one through you know I’ll always be rolling in the aisles.
Twas great work, to be sure, to be sure.
But it’s well past mine, so goodnight, and thanks for the laughs, and the puce sardines!
May 13th, 2008 at 1:07 am
Good night KR!
May 13th, 2008 at 1:09 am
1241
Catrina
Ah, another one to the goodies.
Nice note to finish on.
Night.
May 13th, 2008 at 1:11 am
‘Night KR. Subject to the permission of the esteemed host of this excellent site, I may well be driven to another go at some future point. Parody, like any imitative art, depends on its source material. And puce sardines? Pace sardonically!
May 13th, 2008 at 1:13 am
You can still get Obama for what seem to be the very generous odds of 1.09, with reasonably sizeable amounts of cash available, on betfair. And no, GG, I don’t bet, I just quote. I’m just wondering whether anybody (sane– this isn’t an invitation to a Ronatribe) can give me a reason why this isn’t just free money? Pending assassination theory?
May 13th, 2008 at 1:14 am
‘night kr
May 13th, 2008 at 1:29 am
FINNS & GG
after latest machine gun fire of accurate facts at the illogically based butterfly assembled Obambots , Robert etc , I had a coffee to let the smoke clar &see if there were any survivors
have returned to find the accurate facts of machine gun fire caused havoc:
the Obama supporters have retreated , the Obamabot Generals sullen in defeat have withdrawn , the stronger Obamabots verbally slayed & carried off in embarassment , Robert asleep and whats left …..
the unchallenging Obamabot foot soldiers abandoned , in self admiration & dazed so will leave them in oblivious butterfly bliss and go.
May 13th, 2008 at 1:30 am
not Robert is not an Obambot , he’s too good for them
May 13th, 2008 at 1:30 am
SimonH at #1246:
I don’t bet either, but why is $1.09 potentially not easy money?
Maybe there’s some huge and brilliant piece of dirt the Republicans are saving up. But I think that’s unlikely - they and their SwifiteBoater allies wanted a Hilary nomination (c’mon, Whitewater and that Clark suicide bloke and Monica and those late presidential pardons and etc etc – see Fox/Nation Review for more) so I would guess that they’ve already used the best material to try and get the nominee they wanted (and planned) to face. That strategy failed.
Here’s why I think BHO will win, so why the money neither of us is risking would be (theoretically) safe:
- the small number of Clintonistas who won’t vote for BHO is far outweighed by the mass of evangelical fundies who will not turn out for (to them) The Pensioner, whom they oddly view as disturbingly liberal.
- As McCain keeps twisting in the wind to try and reassure the Republican base, the already-tried BHO line about “Bush’s third term” will gain resonance. We won’t know until November, but there’s at least a whiff of epoch-change about current US politics.
- and: one of the less-commentated upon datum of the primaries has been the huge increase in Democrat turnout. They’re not just rocking up because they love HC or BHO. They’re turning up to say (as, weirdly enough, Newt Gingrich pointed out) “No. Not you. Anyone but you” to the Republicans.
AND
(just for doppelg, FWake and the Blurter)
Part of the reason HC went so spectacularly off the rails (from invincible frontrunner to laughable toast) was a reasonable and rational revulsion against dynastic politics. In the last 20 years, it’s been Bush 1, Clinton 1, Bush 2, and hasn’t that all worked out brilliantly well? Anyone but Clinton 2 was the first response. Anyone but Bush 3 will be the second.
May 13th, 2008 at 1:35 am
And, dearest doppelgangette at #1248:
“the Obama supporters have retreated”
Nope.
“the Obamabot Generals sullen in defeat have withdrawn”
But there’s still a perky private here with numerous axes of non-evil awaiting a good grind.
“the stronger Obamabots verbally slayed”
With all respect doppelthing, you’ve never slayed anything with those verbals. Of course, if you’d said “verbally sludged”, you might have a case.
May 13th, 2008 at 1:38 am
Ron, though I’m certain it is completely unintentional, your advocacy - if that’s the word - also permits us to count you as an Obamanaut. You sway opinion in much the same way that Mark Latham convinced so many of us to vote for John Howard.
May 13th, 2008 at 1:39 am
Ron at 1248
Don’t you worry about those nasty people Ron - I’m here and I’ll take care of you.
*twinkle*
May 13th, 2008 at 1:46 am
Catrina, I think Ron takes a lot of pleasure in his solitary struggle against the forces of evil. I am reminded of an old bloke who used to carry an “A-frame” placard up and down Barrack Street. He declared that protein was the source of evil in the world and called on the mytified public to recant. I wonder what he would have made of blogging.
May 13th, 2008 at 1:47 am
mystified too
May 13th, 2008 at 1:55 am
food for thought: credit turmoil easing?
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=an2VNHoxmJpY&refer=home
May 13th, 2008 at 2:00 am
Blindoptimist @ 1256:
Maybe - optimistic news about the TED spread.
But there’s always another elephant in the room, like
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Business/2008/05/09/us_credit_card_debt_mounting/2435/
Once the Your-House-Is-An-ATM thing goes belly-up, credit cards are the last gasp before foreclosure . . .
May 13th, 2008 at 2:05 am
(L) Won, yes, consumer debt is a chronic problem in the US. The world is full of paradoxes: the Chinese and Japanese save to excess; Americans spend like there is tomorrow. The US economy is vulnerable, which makes it all the more surprising when they manage to skate through, time and again…